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“The game.” I have been hearing that a lot lately.
Last week I did not do a darn thing miles and points while I was out of the country on a business trip, so was going to skip this week’s entry. Then I started catching up on the madness of crowds chasing tulips bluebirds.
I keep hearing the ever-more elaborate gyrations and schemes to earn miles and points as a “game” in a way that unsettles me. I consulted several dictionaries and the entries for game are varied, two from the Oxford Dictionary are:
noun1 a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck.verb2 [with object] manipulate (a situation), typically in a way that is unfair or unscrupulous: it was very easy for a few big companies to game the system
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Re: cash like iinstruments
Do you think this applies to regular gift cards as well? Buying then at Staples for 5x with Ink is quite great too. I’m talking about store gc. Wondering if Chaae could ban for that
@James – the commenters know much more than I, but my gut feeling is that if you go from no office supplies spend to suddenly 50k/year, Chase may take an interest and some creative explaining may be needed, “oh, that, well that used to be on my Amex card…that doesn’t exist…and neither does the business.” 😉 For some the short-term benefit outweighs potential long-term risks.
@RTC: I don’t think it’s a matter of abuse. Every transaction like this is a money-loser for someone along the chain — as much as $21 on a $4 transaction! I’m pretty sure that the “terms and conditions” of the credit cards generally forbid the purchase of “cash-like instruments”, for exactly this reason. . In other words, whenever you buy cash with a credit card you’re not engaging in a transaction (even a money-losing transaction) envisioned or permitted by the card issuer. Instead, you’re taking advantage of the complexity of enforcing the restrictions on the use of the card for… Read more »
The thing about these sorts of deals is that I can’t imagine that any company ever planned to allow the purchase of cash using credit. I’m pretty sure that any instance in which it’s possible to execute a transaction like that is a failure on the part of the merchant. . At a value of 1 cent per point and 5 points per dollar, the sale of a $500 VR code is “costing” someone $25.00. Yet the actual money changing hands is $3.95. And that’s not $3.95 profit, because VR still has to operate and distribute the cards out of… Read more »
@LarryInNYC – and then the companies have to weigh whether or not to kill it, hurting the intended market, just to stop the small percent who abuse it and ironically complain that others kill it for them!
Amen.
I always interested in what people believe is “fair” or “greedy” or being a “hog” or the whole pigs n hogs slaughtered thing. Who determines “what” your are in these instances? How much is too much? I wonder if a blogger would write an article describing what they think is going too far. I would be interested to see where I stack up.
@MileageUpdate – I have no qualms taking on the ethics and norms of this, but I confess I have mostly ignored the subject until recent curiosity and the ability to pay my crippling apartment rent with Bluebird caught my interest. I see there are quite a few debates running about this, some nasty, some childish, some well-reasoned. As my opinion crystallizes, I will post if I think I have something to add. There are personal standards (would I want my obituary to say that I spent my days staking out Office Depot stores?) and community norms (killing the deal) at… Read more »
Thank you. About time somebody showed a reality check. Thank you.
I agree with you and indeed have not yet tasted vanilla nor been tempted by the Siren’s, make that Bluebird’s, song. Met you at the Chicago Do BTW and have enjoyed following the blog ever since…
Score one for prudence and realism. I’m not a Debbie Downer by nature, but this community could stand a few examples of restraint.